joao
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Post by joao on Oct 3, 2007 0:02:11 GMT 7
Hi there.
I am a Mac OSX user and i need to buy a NAS box, till now i have been using Linux with "netatalk" but i need more disk space, so i decided it was the right time to search for a fast NAS that supported AFP to use with my macs.
For what i have been able to see, N5200 is one of the fastest and it says it supports AFP(v3).
I tried to investigate a little (not very much stuff other apple users here...) and i found this information about "mac os limitations" in the firmware 2.00.01:
"a. When using Mac OS X (post 10.2 with AppleTalk) without SMB, do not use Japanese characters in folder or file names to prevent errors accessing the data over a network."
Does this happen with all kind of protocols like AFP, NFS, FTP... ?
"b. Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X can not see files on the network with names made up of over 32 characters ."
This also happens with all kind of protocols (AFP, NFS, FTP,...) ?
Please, if you are a mac user and have a 5200, let me know your experience with it.
Thanks a lot
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Post by gunpowder on Oct 3, 2007 15:39:52 GMT 7
" b. Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X can not see files on the network with names made up of over 32 characters ." I am also aware of this statement and I am still wondering what Thecus really want to say... I have no problems to create files with more than 32 chars and they also show up properly in the finder (just checked with files with more than 60 chars). I also checked it with a PC share (all files created by Windows on this share and mounted on my Mac with AFP) also no problems with files containing more than 32 chars. I am using MacOS 10.4.10 and AFP. But I also had no problems with earlier 10.4 versions. |
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glo8al
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Post by glo8al on Oct 3, 2007 17:30:13 GMT 7
I also had no problems with using more than 32 chars. OSX 10.3.X to 10.4.10.
I just get really really crappy write speeds, read speeds are excellent.
So I have been using SMB which is giving me great read and write speeds to the N5200.
I am using 2.00.01 and haven't tried it since going to the 2.00.xx firmware, but tested it on 1.00.8, 1.00.10 and a beta 1.00.xx.x can't remember.
All were the same really bad write speeds, but great 40Mb/s read speeds.
SMB is giving me around 25-35MB/s write speeds with OSX.
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joao
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Post by joao on Oct 5, 2007 14:14:05 GMT 7
I am using MacOS 10.4.10 and AFP. But I also had no problems with earlier 10.4 versions. Gunpowder, do you have the same speed differences between AFP and SMB as glo8all has? Thanks for your support gunpowder and glo8all. |
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Post by gunpowder on Oct 6, 2007 14:33:41 GMT 7
I am using MacOS 10.4.10 and AFP. But I also had no problems with earlier 10.4 versions. Gunpowder, do you have the same speed differences between AFP and SMB as glo8all has? Thanks for your support gunpowder and glo8all. Sorry, I don't have a tool to measure read/wirte speeds for Mac OS X (any suggestions?). I tried both and from my personal (unmeasured) point a view there is no remarkable difference (e.g. copying 2 GB files). But this gut feeling could be wrong. |
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joao
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Post by joao on Oct 8, 2007 16:17:19 GMT 7
Sorry, I don't have a tool to measure read/wirte speeds for Mac OS X (any suggestions?). In Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor You can use it to check the network speed in a file transfer. Thanks |
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Post by gunpowder on Oct 8, 2007 21:59:45 GMT 7
Sorry, I don't have a tool to measure read/wirte speeds for Mac OS X (any suggestions?). In Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor You can use it to check the network speed in a file transfer. Thanks Oh no - that's to easy ;D I will try it.... |
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Post by lordofschnitzel on Nov 4, 2007 10:24:23 GMT 7
Activity monitor is pretty poor for that. You want MenuMeters - set it to display your network throughput in the menu. www.ragingmenace.com/software/menumeters/Also for proper speed tests you can not go past Helios LANtest www.helios.de/products/LanTest.phtmlDisable the create files and print crap, as you just care for the read/write part. Set the Prefs to LAN speed (their way of determining 30,300,3000MB files size) and point it at your Thecus box. I found that with 30MB files i get 60 MB writes and 50 MB reads from a G5 tower. Subtract 10MB from a G4 Powerbook for writes. If you use larger files (fill and flood the Thecus RAM cache) then this will drop to 30-40 MB per second. If you have multiple machines doing this some users will see performance spikes and lows. Interestingly, I find that SMB does not give me faster access speed, but literally rapes the Thecus's CPU (Watch CPU usage in Web interface). One AFP user is between 18-30%. One SMB user is 80-90% CPU usage on the N5200. Can you say bad samba implementation? Anyway, my five cents based on playing with mine since Wednesday last week. |
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Post by hm1970 on Nov 19, 2007 4:04:34 GMT 7
Hello,
I want to discuss another point using afp with Thecus 5200.
You cannot limit the afp volumes like smb volumes with user groups etc.
There is netatalk installed and if you change the configuration of the file
appleVolumes.default ( I am not sure about the name )
then the group Limitation is working - but when you reboot the system the
confiig file is overwritten.
Has anyone experience with the start procedure ?
thanks
Herbert
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