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Post by sbsdegb1 on Feb 8, 2008 21:35:31 GMT 7
I have made a few posts on this forum trying to establish if the N3200 is actually a good bit of kit or is it flawed. Any positive or negative experiences greatly appreciated.
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Post by wiz on Feb 8, 2008 22:33:14 GMT 7
I bought mine about 2 weeks ago. I would say the thing does what it is supposed to be.
However, be aware you cannot access the operating system that is running on the box (linux), as there's no ssh or telnet activated on it.
So moving data around the filesystem means you have to download and upload it again to the appliance, while if you would be able to access the operating system of the box a simple move could do the job.
I've read some issues with Western Digital Disks, mine holds 3 500 gig samsung disks and it runs like it should.
Plus sides:
Disks spin down when idle longer than 30 mins
Noise level is extremely low
display shows various information (temp / fan rpm / time / network config / raid status)
2 gigabit ethernet interfaces available
support for jumbo frames
price
not so plus sides:
logging of errors is way beyond acceptable (makes configuring nfs hard when you cannot see what goes wrong in the box)
no access to the operating system
while released under gpl no extra details available yet for making your own modules / firmware
so it depends on what you expect of the box.
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Post by sbsdegb1 on Feb 8, 2008 22:53:22 GMT 7
Thanks for you comments. I am looking at this or the QNAP TS-409 so trying to weigh up which is better for my needas. QNAP is more but has 4 drive bays and not just 3
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Post by blixa1977 on Feb 8, 2008 23:05:19 GMT 7
i think accessing the os will be available soon... ;-)
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Post by benkly on Feb 10, 2008 0:11:58 GMT 7
Hi, I dont think that it is a minus thing that you cant access the OS. Thats normal, no manufacturer want that you can code around in their product. So if this is possible, than this is luck, but you can not say that is is a plus or minus thing.
So I think I am happy with the box, it does all the thing it was supposed to. No problems at all.
Benny.
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Post by dbridges on Feb 10, 2008 6:16:48 GMT 7
Hi, I dont think that it is a minus thing that you cant access the OS. Thats normal, no manufacturer want that you can code around in their product. So if this is possible, than this is luck, but you can not say that is is a plus or minus thing. Given how Thecus has benefited from the users gaining access to the OS on the N2100 and N5200 it's surprising that they've decided not to include it on the N3200. Definitely a minus. |
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Post by benkly on Feb 10, 2008 19:20:14 GMT 7
I dont think that thecus want that the users has access to the system at the n2100 and the n4100. It just this way because some users find out how to get access to the system. I got a n2100 and I know that at the first time this device came out there was not so much modules outside. The modules were written after thecus released the first module. So wait until thecus releases the first module for he n3200.
You can only say minus about something that was promised to work by thecus and dont work this way. And for so long, everything is fine.
Benny.
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Post by wiz on Feb 10, 2008 21:52:33 GMT 7
I don't agree with you Benny. If you try to configure nfs, you don't have a clue what is going on from the box point of view, simply because nothing gets logged in the error log.
I have somehow managed to cripple the attributes of one of my shares, and now I can't write anymore through nfs. Only solution left is to copy (not move(!) the data to a new share and remove the old one. If I had access to the operating system I'd have it fixed in no time.
I think Thecus would benefit if we could access the box, as it will get more popular because you can descide yourself what to run on it. And if they'd release information on how to build modules, people will develop modules theirselves.
And like you said, it is just a matter of time before this is figured out how to get to it.
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Post by dbridges on Feb 11, 2008 6:05:33 GMT 7
I dont think that thecus want that the users has access to the system at the n2100 and the n4100. It just this way because some users find out how to get access to the system. I got a n2100 and I know that at the first time this device came out there was not so much modules outside. The modules were written after thecus released the first module. So wait until thecus releases the first module for he n3200. You can only say minus about something that was promised to work by thecus and dont work this way. And for so long, everything is fine. You're implying that the release of the two initial modules by thecus were the impetus for the other modules which is false. The reality is that the rapid increase in module development came about because users discovered the ssh access. The list of modules available would not have been possible without the back end access and thecus has benefited significantly from it. The same will happen for the N3200. One day you'll get SSH and then things will open up and the N3200 will take off like the N2100 and N5200 did. |
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Post by benkly on Feb 11, 2008 16:19:09 GMT 7
Hi,
yes, as you wrote:
But this wasnt supposed to by thecus. It was luck, so it isnt a minus thing for the n3200, just a plus thing for the n2100.
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Post by wiz on Feb 11, 2008 23:19:34 GMT 7
It still is a minus you cannot access the operating system. If something goes wrong with your box all you can do is look at the logs. Logging is useless as not all interesting things are in the logs you can see from the management website.
Whether or not this is designed like this is a total different matter.
just my 2 cts.
Other than that it is a decent piece of kit, but it would have more potential if users had access to the operating system.
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Post by benkly on Feb 11, 2008 23:29:29 GMT 7
Ahhhh ok, you are right. So my mobile is a minus too. And my mp3 player is total minus, cause on this devices I cant get access to the OS.
I see, we see the thing through other ways.
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Post by spider on Mar 3, 2008 22:38:35 GMT 7
Hello,
Does it have Wake-On-Lan capability?
Thanks.
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Post by spider on Mar 10, 2008 21:32:16 GMT 7
I've received the following reply from Thecus support:
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Post by cyberwolf42 on Apr 10, 2008 1:29:37 GMT 7
Ahhhh ok, you are right. So my mobile is a minus too. And my mp3 player is total minus, cause on this devices I cant get access to the OS. I see, we see the thing through other ways. Sheesh, lighten up and keep an open mind. Pluses and minuses, by definition, are opinions. They are SUBJECTIVE. Don't argue with someone about whether or not he or she SHOULD think something is a minus. You're telling them their opinion is wrong, but by definition, it is an opinion and is never WRONG. A minus can be anything anyone WANTS a product to do and that it does not do, or does not do "right" (again, subjective). It can also be something it was never designed to do if someone WANTS it to do that. I am a Product Manager for high tech devices and have been for over a decade. It does not matter what you designed the product to do; if a user wants to use it for something that it does not do, then it is a missing feature or benefit. This is of course within reason. I'm sure you can think of an infinite number of ridiculous examples to throw back at me and based on your prior behavior I'm sure you will do exactly that. NOW, back to our regularly scheduled program. The N3200 looks good, and I eagerly await the availability of shell access and the creation of additional modules. I am an N5200BR owner already, and have N5200-Pro envy... although the N5200 does the job pretty well. |
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