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Post by fritze on Nov 29, 2006 20:45:25 GMT 7
Hi all New to the forum. Currently waiting for *MY* N2100 to come by mail. I'm reading up on it here and everywhere else to make sure I haven't missed anything and now it strikes me. Is anyone running it in a non-RAID setup? Is it even possible run the N2100 without RAID0 or 1 or even JBOD, just two separate HDD's? Thanks in advance.
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Post by marty on Nov 30, 2006 0:49:58 GMT 7
I think it will be a management issue. If you run with separate HDD configuration and one folder on one HDD is running out of space, are you going to move to the second HDD? Or do you want to let user rearrange the physical locations of the folders?
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Post by fritze on Nov 30, 2006 2:25:25 GMT 7
I think it will be a management issue. If you run with separate HDD configuration and one folder on one HDD is running out of space, are you going to move to the second HDD? Or do you want to let user rearrange the physical locations of the folders? That's a really long reply, which doesn't answer my question.....you should be a politician. I'm just asking if it's possible, not what the effect of doing it will have on managing my users. Simple yes or no answer to "Is it possible to setup two hdd's separately on the N2100?" I.e. without using JBOD or RAID.
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Post by spiken on Nov 30, 2006 2:35:42 GMT 7
No you can t.
Only Raid 0, 1 or JBOD are available.
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Post by dbridges on Nov 30, 2006 5:01:54 GMT 7
Hi Fritze,
Given what I and the other members of this forum have been able to do with our N2100's I would have to say yes it is possible.
You will NOT be able to manage both of the drives through the web interface but there should be nothing stopping you from doing it through the back end.
You will need one drive fully configured through the web admin in order to install and execute the modules.
It's then up to you to identify and mount the second drive...
Marty was right though. It's a management issue. You need to be clear about what you're trying to achieve and why.
If you look through these forums you'll see that no one has tried what your asking. The main reason for that is that it's a big pain in the a$$ and results in little positive gain.
The only viable reason for your question is that you can't afford two drives at this stage and you'd like to get up and running with the one drive and add a second later. If that's the case, fair enough.
From what i understand (please correct me if i'm wrong) adding a second drive in jbod rebuilds the jbod completely and you lose all of your existing data. This i acknowledge is a problem that thecus should address if possible.
What is it you're trying to achieve? What setup are you aiming for and why?
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Post by marty on Nov 30, 2006 9:26:59 GMT 7
From the new user's manual on thecus website www.thecus.com/download/manual/N2100%20UM%20EN.pdfIf you are using JBOD with one disk and would like to add a second disk ¡KIf you started with one disk in JBOD mode, you can add a second disk at a later time. When the second disk is installed, you can just select the second disk and click on the Create button to create a volume equal to the size of two disks installed. The data in the first disk will be preserved. During JBOD expansion, all the file services will be stopped. The time for expansion depends on the size of the disks installed. All the file services will be resumed after the expansion is finished.
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Post by dbridges on Nov 30, 2006 10:29:39 GMT 7
Thanks Marty That answers that!
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Post by fritze on Nov 30, 2006 14:14:41 GMT 7
Well that sucks, I was hoping it could be setup like the D-Link DNS-323, which is able to configure the drives separately. The shares are just on one drive or the other, meaning if one drive fails, only the users with files on that drive lose data.
I wasn't really trying to "achieve" anything....I'd just like the drives to be separate and not lose all data in case of a single-drive failure. RAID1 isn't a good option for me, since the drives I intend to use are different in size and getting two large, equal-size drives is pretty expensive.
Oh yeah, also: Right now I only have one HDD for it (an old 120GB) and I want to add another very soon (a big 500/750GB one) and later add another, which afaik (from reading these posts) isn't possible either, without losing/copying all data first. True? I wish I'd known this prior to buying the thing. I'd have gotten the DNS-323 anyway.....Yes, even with the reportedly lower performance. ;D
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Post by fritze on Dec 1, 2006 0:14:43 GMT 7
Well that sucks, I was hoping it could be setup like the D-Link DNS-323, which is able to configure the drives separately. The shares are just on one drive or the other, meaning if one drive fails, only the users with files on that drive lose data. I wasn't really trying to "achieve" anything....I'd just like the drives to be separate and not lose all data in case of a single-drive failure. RAID1 isn't a good option for me, since the drives I intend to use are different in size and getting two large, equal-size drives is pretty expensive. Oh yeah, also: Right now I only have one HDD for it (an old 120GB) and I want to add another very soon (a big 500/750GB one) and later again replace the 120GB, which afaik (from reading these posts) isn't possible either, without losing/copying all data first. True? I wish I'd known this prior to buying the thing. I'd have gotten the DNS-323 anyway.....Yes, even with the reportedly lower performance. ;D
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Post by dbridges on Dec 1, 2006 5:02:30 GMT 7
I wasn't really trying to "achieve" anything.... Read the paragraph prior to this quote... You were trying to "achieve" a setup similar to the D-Link DNS-323... Anyway... You can do everything that you want through the back end if your linux skills are up to it. You need only install and configure the first drive through the GUI and when you add the second one just use ssh to connect and then partition, format and mount the new drive yourself. Then edit the samba config file (/raid/sys/smb.conf) and create your shares manually; pointing them to the second drive. If you stick with the N2100 you'll find that it offers so many possibilities that the competing products don't. There are no restrictions to what you can do. I don't think that you'll find too many people here who are ready to return their n2100's What you do from here though is your decision. If the n2100 isn't for you, then so be it.
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Post by Ka Hooli on Dec 2, 2006 6:10:03 GMT 7
From the new user's manual on thecus website www.thecus.com/download/manual/N2100%20UM%20EN.pdfIf you are using JBOD with one disk and would like to add a second disk ¡KIf you started with one disk in JBOD mode, you can add a second disk at a later time. When the second disk is installed, you can just select the second disk and click on the Create button to create a volume equal to the size of two disks installed. The data in the first disk will be preserved. During JBOD expansion, all the file services will be stopped. The time for expansion depends on the size of the disks installed. All the file services will be resumed after the expansion is finished. I tried this last weekend, and it doesn't work. My N2100 (using the latest firmware and following these instructions) formatted my original HDD together with the second. I have had a pain in the a$$ week whilst also working full-time and with a family trying to recover my lost data. I in the end I unformatted the drive then used about 5x80GB HDD's together with DiskInternals Linux Reader for Windows to recover most of my data. I have ended up loosing some of my data to corruption. I too would like to see support for two individual drives not in a RAID/JBOD scheme. Ka Hooli
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Post by fritze on Dec 6, 2006 15:01:37 GMT 7
I wonder why this isn't an option? Certainly seems strange to me anyway. Well my 2100 arrived on monday and I've been playing around with it ever since and I must say I'm very happy with it so far. I'd bought it used and the firmware was v1.0.5, so updated that first thing to v2.1.3 . Then sat down to test it with a small 120GB I've had lying around for a while as well as a couple 80GB external (USB) drives and my printer. Very nice piece of hardware.
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